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Q&A:

Charlie Cacao asked Is it physically possible to put a stock on an AR pistol?

What I am asking is would I physically be able to put a stock on an AR pistol that is meant for a regular 5.56 ar-15? From seeing the buffer tubes on the AR pistols it looks as if one would have to put on an ar-15 rifle buffer tube. Is it possible to simply screw an ar15 buffer tube onto an ar pistol lower reciever without modification to anything?

And got the following answer:

All you need is to get a buffer with the holes to put the stock. If its an ar pistol it would be considered a short barreled rifle if you put the stock on, thus you need a tax stamp.

Nepeth asked Shipping an AR15 Upper Receiver to New York City?

I am planning on building a 6.5 Grendel AR-15. Thing is, I’m in AIT with the Army at Fort Lee, so I can’t have any weapons (or part of weapons) on post, since I’m not Permanent Party (I’m still considered IET). I’d have to have the parts shipped up to my current address (which is in The Bronx, I’m in the middle of changing my state of residence to Florida). I am wondering if it is legal to have just the UPPER shipped to my home address in New York City, I know the Lower receiver needs to go through a FFL.
I’ve seen online elsewhere it is legal to ship any part of the weapon (besides the lower) legally, but I want to make sure it is that way for certain for New York City, I don’t need to get hemmed up by the NYPD because I am trying to build a AR15, or is it better just to wait until I can get my state of residence changed to Florida?

And got the following answer:

Here in NYC ANY weapon that takes a magazine is illegal due to the hi-cap limits here. So unfortunately you will not be able to have that anyway at all in NYC’s city limits. SO PLEASE for the love of god don’t try and send it to your address they will lock you upif they catch you. I can’t even have a Bolt action Enfield Rifle here in NYC, because it can inturnally load 6rds and yet I legally own 2 pistols that hold 10rds mags… go figure. Just wait untill you get FL state residence bro, I’d hate to see a fellow Soldier get hemmed up.

Also, NYC’s nonsensical definition of an “Assault weapon” would also make the AR totally banned.

16. “Assault weapon.”
(a) Any semiautomatic centerfire or rimfire rifle or semiautomatic
shotgun which has one or more of the following features:
1. folding or telescoping stock or no stock;
2. pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the
weapon;
3. bayonet mount;
4. flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash
suppressor;
5. barrel shroud;
6. grenade launcher; or
7. modifications of such features, or other features, determined by
rule of the commissioner to be particularly suitable for military and
not sporting purposes. In addition, the commissioner shall, by rule,
designate specific semiautomatic centerfire or rimfire rifles or
semiautomatic shotguns, identified by make, model and/or manufacturer’s
name, as within the definition of assault weapon, if the commissioner
determines that such weapons are particularly suitable for military and
not sporting purposes. The commissioner shall inspect such specific
designated semiautomatic centerfire or rimfire rifles or semiautomatic
shotguns at least three times per year, and shall revise or update such
designations as he or she deems appropriate.
(b) Any shotgun with a revolving-cylinder magazine.
(c) Any part, or combination of parts, designed or redesigned or
intended to readily convert a rifle or shotgun into an assault weapon.
(d) “Assault weapon” shall not include any rifle or shotgun modified
to render it permanently inoperative.

Rooster asked Is a collapsible stock lower with a short barrel upper taken from a AR15 type pistol illegal to own?

Basically, can any ordinary gun owner just legally own a short barrel collapsible stock AR15 rifle?
11.5″ barrel
Do you need special paper work or permits to legally own one, like owning fully auto weapons or silencers?

And got the following answer:

Yes. Even owning a short barreled upper and a rifle lower is considered intent to manufacture a weapon made from a rifle (SBR), if you dont have a pistol lower.

You dont need any sort of license, but it would be an NFA item and would require the paperwork. Not as difficult as you think, but it is bothersome and takes some time.

eric asked What would an assault weapons ban actually accomplish?

I’m about 20 years old and I’ve owned my ar15 for 2 months and takin some heat from some of my more liberal peers. I’m aware that they are misinformed because I’m confident if let’s say colt made a semi auto 5.56 rifle with a wooden stock, it probably wouldn’t be listed as “assault weapon”. I may be in favor of background checks, and he’ll maybe even mag restrictions (I’m 20 I can’t afford to load up 30 rounds) but what would a total “assault rifle” ban accomplish? I think the next nut would just use a bolt action or less “scary looking semi auto” I’m I crazy to think so?

And got the following answer:

It would make people feel good that they are “doing something”, and that’s about it. That may sound snarky, but it will sell to low information folks. You’ve got folks claiming the AWB reduced the number of shootings, which has never been anything but a post hoc fallacy***. You’ve got people still buying into the notion that an “assault weapon” is a machine gun or some other monstrous superweapon instead of an ordinary rifle. Both groups ignore that the OVERWHELMING culprit in gun violence is still the handgun. Va. Tech, Tuscon/Jared Loughner, Columbine to a large extent – all were perpetrated with handguns and/or pistol-caliber carbines.

As for limits on mag size, I too would be okay with that. The thing is, existing magazines (of which there are hundreds of millions) would not become illegal, and frankly, 3 10-round mags are just as deadly as one 30-round magazine when you are shooting at unarmed people in an enclosed area. It only takes a couple of seconds to swap out a magazine. The Va. Tech shooter perpetrated one of the worst mass shootings in U.S. history carrying a pair of handguns. He simply carried many extra magazines. A few were 15 round, but most were 10 round, meaning that the AWB would not have affected them, either. One of those pistols was chambered in .22LR, one of the weakest rounds commercially available. It was still deadly. All guns are deadly, not just the scary looking ones.

***Crime in all areas dropped in the 90s, not just gun crimes. Government and university research (DOJ, UC Berekely, etc.) point to the unprecedented economic good times and more aggressive law enforcement efforts couple with longer prison sentences. No reliable study has indicated the AWB could be credited for any measurable effect on gun crimes one way or another.

QH Love asked Goin to a shooting range for the first time?

With my boyfriend. He has 11 assault rifles 3 shotguns and a few pistols. I was wondering what I should start off shooting with. I’m teeny but pretty strong for my size. I’m a decent shot on my brothers scope pellet gun, but I know thats probably nothin like a real gun. he has everything from AR15s to Double barrel shotguns to rugers. whats the easiest thing to start out with?

And got the following answer:

I’d definitely start with a rifle rather than a pistol, just because they’re a lot easier to shoot. I’m guessing the AR15 is probably the lowest calibre, so I’d start with that. It’s designed to have very limited recoil, so as long as you shoulder it properly it should be quite easy. Remember to breathe out as you shoot and to keep the very tip of your finger on the trigger. If you’re doing slow shooting (so you have ages to aim each shot), try not to jerk the trigger (it should be a gentle squeeze and you should be almost surprised when the gun fires). Also make sure your face isn’t too close to the gun the first few times you fire – I’ve seen some people get taken by surprise and almost knock themselves out, although once you get used to it the gun will barely move as you fire.

Hope this helps

EDIT: Wiz, a semi-auto rifle can be an assault rifle. L1A1 for starters.

s316247 asked can an ar15 uppe be converted to work without te buffer tube?

Hello a friend of mine told me he once had an ar15 pistol that did not have the buffer tube sticking out of the back. I a wondering if this was some special configuration or if any upper can be converted to work like this? I am thinking about building an ar15 pistol for a range toy and the buffer tube sticking out the back has always been a turn off to the ar15 pistol to me.

And got the following answer:

Check this out:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=4&t=426271

Looks like it would require quite a bit of tool savvy to complete, though.

So yes, what your friend had probably was a special configuration, and yes, most uppers probably can be converted. (one way or another)

However, you must be careful. (There are legal issues to consider)

For example, the lower MUST have been manufactured as a pistol lower. (either by some manufacturer or yourself)

You CANNOT use a rifle lower because you would be making a short barreled rifle, which is highly restricted. (Lots of paperwork involved)

Disclaimer: I’m not a lawyer and I’ve never built one of these, so you will want to verify any/all legal/technical advice I might give.

brad d asked Should I get my glock with the compensator?

I’m planning on buying a glock 19, i’ve delliberated quit a bit on it. I like that ammo is affordable, readily avalible, relatively low recoil, and has substanitial ballistic performance. also the 15 round clip is a plus, I plan on stacking it w/ 2fmj, 2hp, 2fmj, 3hp, 1 fmj, 1wc, 3hp, 1wc. I don’t plan on keeping a round in the chamber because though I know the glock is safe from my mistakes I don’t want it to fire if someone else manages to get their hands on it and pulls the trigger. It will be my first personal gun, I’m getting it for 2 main reasons; 1, I’m a bartender and walk home late at night hopefully with a good deal of cash in my pocket; 2, I think it is likely that at some point in my lifetime $hit is going to “hit the fan” no better time than the present to start working towards proficiency with a tool of self defence. So I’ve thought all that out, my question here is; what does the compensator do exactly? am I better with it or without it? the $30 differnce is no concern.
2 out of 4 comments so far have cautione against carrying mixed loads. my question is, have you ever been in a combat situation? i have it on good experienced authority that mixed loading saves lives. in real life, as opposed to on the range, your target will almost certainly be moving and taking cover, likely be shooting back at you, and possibly be numerous. Multiple types of rounds accessible in a single clip gives you an indispensible advantage. one of them said when i asked him about a compensator “meh, they’re a neat idea, but i’m not really into that fancy shit” sorry, i think i’ll stick to the advice of people i know on this subject.

And got the following answer:

First I’ll preface by saying that I’ve shot every single Glock that’s been manufactured. Yes, even the G18 WITH a shoulder stock.

With that said, I think the compensator does do a decent job of reducing muzzle flip, which is already not any big deal in the 9mm G19. It’s just a BITCH to clean. You’ll have a lot more copper and powder fouling on the top of your gun and in the ports, which will require more scrubbing to get off.

Personally, if you’re looking to carry concealed, you may want to consider a G26, since its a bit more compact. But if you’re looking to hit the range a lot, the 19 is better.

My two carry guns are a S&W 342PD in 38special and a Glock 36 in 45acp. I carry the S&W while I’m in a suit going to and from work and I carry the G36 mostly in the cooler months, where the larger gun is more concealable. The G36 can be tough to conceal if you’re wearing a t shirt, which may draw attention to you. The G36 is also smaller than the 19 you’re looking at by a little bit.

Now with your ammo choices…what are you thinking?!?!? You DO NOT want to carry a mixed load EVER. You actually want to put wad cutters, hollow points and full metal jackets in the samg magazine? Dude!

Stick with the load I use in my G19, the Speer Gold Dot 124grain +P load. Load the WHOLE mag up with it and if someone tries to rob you, you’ll brighten their world one bullet at a time. You should also carry WITH a round chambered, as in a shoot or die situation, you WILL NOT have time to rack the slide and engaged your targets effectively. You can drill yourself all you want, but the safest way (so you live) to carry is with a loaded chamber. If you don’t have the discipline to carry with one in the tube, you probably aren’t comfortable enough with a pistol yet and you should not carry.

PS. You may want to think of a 5 shot J frame S&W like I have. I carry in a pocket holster and can have my hand discretely in my pocket holding the gun in my hand without having the need to draw it if there were unsavory characters around.

Good luck in your purchase!

EDIT TO ANSWER YOUR UPDATE:

I’ve been trained by the Emergency Services Units of two New York police agencies, I’ve been trained by an US Army West Point marksman’s team to shoot high power matches with AR15’s and my gun knowledge goes beyond “normal people” since its my big hobby.

I’ve read what people have written about mixed loads and I’ll give you the HUGEST, most dangerous downfall of mixed carry loads – Point of Impact changes.

When you have a firearm like mine, that will shoot dead bullseyes with a load that you’re used to, then that FMJ load pops up and the POI changes by 2″ up and 2″ right. You may have just missed the guy and hit someone behind him.

As its been said to me, as a person carrying a pistol, you have a duty to protect yourself as well as to prevent injuries to unarmed and innocent parties. If you have that proverbial head shot that is the only thing you can take and suddenly you can’t, because you don’t realize what bullet is up next, you’re screwed.

Shoot and carry ONE bullet. In fact, if you don’t believe me, contact your local police and ask to speak to their Firearms and Tactics section sergeant. Give him your concerns and see how fast he gets irate with the suggestion of carrying multiple loads. Its just a hideously bad idea. What are the credentials of the person who suggested carrying 3 different loads?

What are the benefits of multiple loads? Why not carry the BEST bullet available? The one I mentioned is a GREAT performer. I’ve also recently tested a 40S&W TAP load in my Glock 27. We were shooting bottles and windshields to see deflection and penetration. The TAP load penetrated 5 windshields and had velocity left over to lodge itself in the wood backstop. The speer gold dot load I mentioned was also damned close in performance. This load is what NYPD has adopted and what I exclusively shoot through my pistols, unless someone else shoots, which I then give them UMC FMJ’s.

I’ll also address what you typed:
i have it on good experienced authority that mixed loading saves lives.” Who is the authority? They are most definitely wrong.

“in real life, as opposed to on the range, your target will almost certainly be moving and taking cover, likely be shooting back at you, and possibly be numerous.” – Yes, and what advantage does the mixed mag give you? There is NO advantage, since the bullets will recoil differently and perform differently. Now if you want to carry different MAGS of ammo, that’s fine. But a WAD CUTTER is NEVER, EVER a good defensive load in a semi auto pistol. Never!

“Multiple types of rounds accessible in a single clip gives you an indispensible advantage.” – Have them tell you what advantage there is. Because it has nothing to do with engaging bad guys, increased accuracy or knock down power. You’re best off with your best bullet with each pull of the trigger, since you’ll know what it’ll do every time you pull the trigger.

Any other questions, you can IM me and I’ll be happy to explain anything.

brad d asked Should I get my glock with the compensator?

I’m planning on buying a glock 19, i’ve delliberated quit a bit on it. I like that ammo is affordable, readily avalible, relatively low recoil, and has substanitial ballistic performance. also the 15 round clip is a plus, I plan on stacking it w/ 2fmj, 2hp, 2fmj, 3hp, 1 fmj, 1wc, 3hp, 1wc. I don’t plan on keeping a round in the chamber because though I know the glock is safe from my mistakes I don’t want it to fire if someone else manages to get their hands on it and pulls the trigger. It will be my first personal gun, I’m getting it for 2 main reasons; 1, I’m a bartender and walk home late at night hopefully with a good deal of cash in my pocket; 2, I think it is likely that at some point in my lifetime $hit is going to “hit the fan” no better time than the present to start working towards proficiency with a tool of self defence. So I’ve thought all that out, my question here is; what does the compensator do exactly? am I better with it or without it? the $30 differnce is no concern.
2 out of 4 comments so far have cautione against carrying mixed loads. my question is, have you ever been in a combat situation? i have it on good experienced authority that mixed loading saves lives. in real life, as opposed to on the range, your target will almost certainly be moving and taking cover, likely be shooting back at you, and possibly be numerous. Multiple types of rounds accessible in a single clip gives you an indispensible advantage. one of them said when i asked him about a compensator “meh, they’re a neat idea, but i’m not really into that fancy shit” sorry, i think i’ll stick to the advice of people i know on this subject.

And got the following answer:

First I’ll preface by saying that I’ve shot every single Glock that’s been manufactured. Yes, even the G18 WITH a shoulder stock.

With that said, I think the compensator does do a decent job of reducing muzzle flip, which is already not any big deal in the 9mm G19. It’s just a BITCH to clean. You’ll have a lot more copper and powder fouling on the top of your gun and in the ports, which will require more scrubbing to get off.

Personally, if you’re looking to carry concealed, you may want to consider a G26, since its a bit more compact. But if you’re looking to hit the range a lot, the 19 is better.

My two carry guns are a S&W 342PD in 38special and a Glock 36 in 45acp. I carry the S&W while I’m in a suit going to and from work and I carry the G36 mostly in the cooler months, where the larger gun is more concealable. The G36 can be tough to conceal if you’re wearing a t shirt, which may draw attention to you. The G36 is also smaller than the 19 you’re looking at by a little bit.

Now with your ammo choices…what are you thinking?!?!? You DO NOT want to carry a mixed load EVER. You actually want to put wad cutters, hollow points and full metal jackets in the samg magazine? Dude!

Stick with the load I use in my G19, the Speer Gold Dot 124grain +P load. Load the WHOLE mag up with it and if someone tries to rob you, you’ll brighten their world one bullet at a time. You should also carry WITH a round chambered, as in a shoot or die situation, you WILL NOT have time to rack the slide and engaged your targets effectively. You can drill yourself all you want, but the safest way (so you live) to carry is with a loaded chamber. If you don’t have the discipline to carry with one in the tube, you probably aren’t comfortable enough with a pistol yet and you should not carry.

PS. You may want to think of a 5 shot J frame S&W like I have. I carry in a pocket holster and can have my hand discretely in my pocket holding the gun in my hand without having the need to draw it if there were unsavory characters around.

Good luck in your purchase!

EDIT TO ANSWER YOUR UPDATE:

I’ve been trained by the Emergency Services Units of two New York police agencies, I’ve been trained by an US Army West Point marksman’s team to shoot high power matches with AR15’s and my gun knowledge goes beyond “normal people” since its my big hobby.

I’ve read what people have written about mixed loads and I’ll give you the HUGEST, most dangerous downfall of mixed carry loads – Point of Impact changes.

When you have a firearm like mine, that will shoot dead bullseyes with a load that you’re used to, then that FMJ load pops up and the POI changes by 2″ up and 2″ right. You may have just missed the guy and hit someone behind him.

As its been said to me, as a person carrying a pistol, you have a duty to protect yourself as well as to prevent injuries to unarmed and innocent parties. If you have that proverbial head shot that is the only thing you can take and suddenly you can’t, because you don’t realize what bullet is up next, you’re screwed.

Shoot and carry ONE bullet. In fact, if you don’t believe me, contact your local police and ask to speak to their Firearms and Tactics section sergeant. Give him your concerns and see how fast he gets irate with the suggestion of carrying multiple loads. Its just a hideously bad idea. What are the credentials of the person who suggested carrying 3 different loads?

What are the benefits of multiple loads? Why not carry the BEST bullet available? The one I mentioned is a GREAT performer. I’ve also recently tested a 40S&W TAP load in my Glock 27. We were shooting bottles and windshields to see deflection and penetration. The TAP load penetrated 5 windshields and had velocity left over to lodge itself in the wood backstop. The speer gold dot load I mentioned was also damned close in performance. This load is what NYPD has adopted and what I exclusively shoot through my pistols, unless someone else shoots, which I then give them UMC FMJ’s.

I’ll also address what you typed:
i have it on good experienced authority that mixed loading saves lives.” Who is the authority? They are most definitely wrong.

“in real life, as opposed to on the range, your target will almost certainly be moving and taking cover, likely be shooting back at you, and possibly be numerous.” – Yes, and what advantage does the mixed mag give you? There is NO advantage, since the bullets will recoil differently and perform differently. Now if you want to carry different MAGS of ammo, that’s fine. But a WAD CUTTER is NEVER, EVER a good defensive load in a semi auto pistol. Never!

“Multiple types of rounds accessible in a single clip gives you an indispensible advantage.” – Have them tell you what advantage there is. Because it has nothing to do with engaging bad guys, increased accuracy or knock down power. You’re best off with your best bullet with each pull of the trigger, since you’ll know what it’ll do every time you pull the trigger.

Any other questions, you can IM me and I’ll be happy to explain anything.