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Betfair Lay Betting Tips And Secrets

If you place a ‘back’ bet with a bookmaker in the usual way and the bet wins, the bookmaker will pay out your winnings. If the bet loses then the bookmaker will keep your stake money. By taking bets from people in this traditional way enables the bookies to make millions of pounds profit each year. You become the ‘backer’.

A ‘layer’ is the complete opposite of a ‘backer’, it’s basically the same as playing the role of the bookmaker. Since the introduction of betting exchanges such as Betfair, you now have the unique opportunity to lay bets in the same way as a bookmaker. If the outcome of the event that you lay bet does indeed lose, then you get to keep the stake money just like the bookmaker. You become the ‘layer’.

As people say “you don’t see a poor bookie very often”.

Therefore, you might want an answer to this question:-

If you can make money from lay betting in the same way as a bookie, by being a ‘layer’, why would anyone want to be a ‘backer’?

Well, it depends on what you expect to achieve from lay betting, also what your general betting expectations are. Let me explain …

The back bet – typical ‘backers’ attitude …

Someone looking for a ‘quick fix’, knowing that each time they make a back bet the odds are stacked firmly against them, they are lured into ‘backing’ based purely on a hunch, or a betting tip, maybe from a mate at work. For handing over a relatively small amount of cash,combined with the exciting prospect of a possible good win looming, the temptation can be simply too much to resist.

If you enter a bookmaker’s premises you will often observe many ‘gamblers’ with their lists of lucky numbers, betting tips, hot tips etc, going about the same routine always used to make their selections. A couple of minutes before each race, they hurriedly glance through the race card, make their selection then run to the counter to place their back bet, then invariably watch it lose. The strange thing is that they follow this same pattern race after race, day after day, week in week out ‘ and the bookies love them!

Now, I am not suggesting that every backer falls into the above categories. Sometimes, ‘backers’ will strive to put in the extra work needed, helping them with their final betting selections, by analysing stats, studying form, maybe taking advice, of following good quality betting tips etc.

If you fall into this category because you have developed your own unique method for selecting that really hot horse in a race, or statistics might be your thing, giving you a profitable edge to your favourite sport before you decide on that all important back bet. If so, I wish you luck because you have done extremely well, but you are very much in the minority.

The lay bet – typical ‘layers’ attitude …

There is one very important thing that most ‘backers’ and ‘layers’ are likely to have in common – they both want to make as much money as possible in the shortest possible amount of time. This fact is undoubtedly true, but with some important differences. The ‘layer’ will not be expecting to make a killing from just one lay bet, therefore is likely to be more patient and better prepared, safe in the knowledge that the Betfair lay bet is readily available.

Patience will play a big part in all successful ‘layers’, their attitude to risk will be much better adjusted, knowing that their profit will come over a period of time by strictly following a good staking plan, they will only lay bet when their system indicates a strong lay betting opportunity.

Now we all know that it’s much more difficult to pick a winner, than it is to pick a loser. Therefore, unlike the ‘backer’, the odds are stacked very much in the ‘layers’ favour as far as the probability of a successful lay bet is concerned.

Sometimes, this greatly increased chance of a successful lay bet can lure the inexperienced layer into the trap of thinking that lay betting is easy. Well it is easy to do, but you need to make confident lay bets based on sound judgement and analysis, always making sure that you are completely familiar with the type of event you are lay betting, no lay betting on whims, or hunches.

On the other hand, the experienced and clued up ‘layer’ will have complete confidence in their selection process, whilst adopting a highly disciplined and professional approach to their lay betting. They will never lay bet with money that is needed for other important things like household bills, only using money that is set aside purely for their lay betting activities. Sticking rigidly to a good solid staking plan they will never over commit themselves.

If your aim is to be highly successful at lay betting on Betfair, you should be looking to achieve a win rate of around 9 times out of 10. This is realistically achievable. Remember you are looking for losers, not winners.

I do hope this helps you to decide whether you are a ‘backer’ or a ‘layer’. Thank you very much for reading this article.

It will come as no surprise to you that I am most definitely a ‘layer?.

Which one are you?

-Lawrence Taylor-

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Prophet John asked How Much is a Encore Pistol worth in a 454 Casull Caliber with a VAXll 2.5×8 Leupold Scope?

This is a Blue finish pistol with a 10″ Barrel Vaxll 2.5×8 Leupold Scope.
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And got the following answer:

I think that in used, good condition, a package like you describe would run about $650 – $800.

If new, check suggested retail prices and go off of that.

FBI9400 asked What scope would you put on a TC encore 223 rem hand gun?

I would like to shoot from 50 yards to 300 yrds at least and not spend more than $200. Do I need a hand gun scope or would a rifle scope work also? I got a cheap rifle scope on the hand gun right now and I cant set it. I think that the scope can not take the shock. Any help would be nice. Thanks

And got the following answer:

I have a 14″ .223 ackley improved for my contender with a Burris pistol scope 3-12 power ballistic plex. makes a good long range gun as long as you have a good rest.

I also have a 12″ encore barrel in standard 223 with a 2-7 power Burris pistol scope, this is the gun I carry when out in the country looking for coyotes.

for under 200 dollars you can find several handgun/pistol scopes on eBay, I recently purchased a 2.5 power NcStar for 35 bucks and have used it on a 44 mag contender with out any problems to date and have fired about 200 rounds with it.

If you want quality optics stay with Leupold, Burris and weaver. These all have very bright optics (for lower light condition) and clarity. As for power, the high the power the more difficult it will be to control with out a rest. I do a lot of hunting with a 2 and a 4 power scope, fixed power scope also weigh less the variable optics (something to consider if you will be walking alot or shooting off hand). If you shots are from 50-300 will work the best. I see 2 and 4 power Leupold’s and Burris’s handgun scopes on eBay sell for around 120-180 range.

you will want to stay away from rifle scope as the eye relief is only 3 to 4 inches where as a handgun / pistol scope is 11 – 20 depending on the power. the higher the power the less eye relief.

Burris and Leupold have life time warranties, if they ever break they will repair them free!

I’m Gonna Tell You asked What do you think about a woman learning to hunt?

My husband doesn’t show any interest in hunting at all. I learned at a young age how to shoot with very good accuracy (rifles with my dad and pabst beer cans–we’d aim for the ends of the ribbon) Recently the season opened and I’m feeling like I’m missing out. I never field dressed a deer, or hacked one up- how do I learn how to do all the stuff after I get one?

I have some good recipies for venison too. So cooking isn’t a problem for me.
I’m in Michigan, hunting is imperitave to keep the population of deer down. My Dad lives nearly 3 hours away in central Indiana; he also takes care of my sick step mother (she’s kinda a baby he says). My husband said that me hunting with men is OUT of the question, maybe if there was a ladies hunting guild or something, he’d be good with that. I wonder how many women hunt? Sounds like another question comming on!

And got the following answer:

I think you should try it out. Let me just throw some basics out there. First you will need a legal weopan. If a rifle in your state is legal, then I would suggest that. Basically hunter’s use bows, crossbows, rifles, handguns, muzzleloaders and shotguns to hunt. In my opinion, a bolt action rifle is about the easiest to hunt and be safe with. I know that weeds alot of other good weopans out quick, but a bolt action rifle will do the job. Reccomendation: Savage 10FCM Sierra, Model 16FCSS, or maybe Model 14 American Classic in 308. There are many other Savage models and other makers which make fine guns, but this is a quick preferance. They are both Savage models in 308win with a black plastic stock and a detachable magazine. When possible, I prefer a detachable magazine for hunting so I can carry an extra in my vest for a quick reload. While this is important, other things have always made me end up with a rifle without one.

Next, scope. . .Get a Leupold, but other cheaper options exist. I don’t own Lepold myself, but most swear by them. I have 2 scopes: 1 Simmons because my gunsmith thought that no other brand held up as well on my pistol and 1 Burris XTR 3 – 12 because no other maker offered as good of glass and specs for the price. For a first attempt at hunting, you will only shoot with a single zero. For that, I would look at a 1″ scope with about a 40mm objective and 4x or 6x fixed magnification. My reccomendation: Leupold 6×42 FX-III Riflescope with German #4 reticle or the much cheaper Weaver 6×38 Classic K6 Series Rifle Scope also has a good name. My dad has a Weaver K series from the 50’s, but they were probably American made then. Not sure now.

Extras. . .Get good binoculars. You can spend >$2500 on these, but $150 – $400 will get you a good set of porro prism binos. Roof type will cost an additional $200. Stay away from anything in a blisterpack.

Rangefinder. Not sure if this is something wanted or not, but a $200 rangefinder can be a huge help to someone trying to figure out how far away a deer is. Imagining football fields is hard at best. BTW. . .Usually, you range next to the animal, not the animal.

Clothing. For starters jeans and warm clothing will do with an orange top to keep you legal. After that, local conditions and how close you want to get will be your guide. A note on scent control. If you have the wind at your back, nothing works for scent control. With the wind at your face anything is good enough for scent control. With no wind and swirling wind, scent control can help. Beware of that $500 scent free super camo. Camo is similar. If you are silloueted, nothing will camo you. If you are buried in shadows, no camo is needed. Most other times camo can help a non-moving hunter quite a bit, if downwind.

Stands. A good camo netting over bushes will be enough cover for a blind if you will sit and hunt. Tree stands allow you to see more. Walking slow will allow you to see more in big country like out west. No need at first.

A good hunting partner. Invaluable. A good hunting partner is great for exchanging ideas, helping you see more game and finding quality places to hunt.

GPS. These are relatively new, but a good one will keep you from loosing the truck. and allow you to go where you want to hunt, instead of wandering around in circles which can happen.

Keep practicing shooting and give hunting a try.

Brandon asked What is the best .308 WIN hunting rifle with a pistol grip stock?

I am looking to buy a moderately priced hunting rifle chambered in .308 WIN with a pistol grip stock. I really like the “Marlin XT-17VLB,” but it is only chambered in 17 HMR. I love the quality and fair price of Marlins, and I looking for something like that.

And got the following answer:

Savage rifles are known for excellent accuracy and value.

How about the Savage Model 10 Precision Carbine?
Weighs 8lbs, 20″ barrel. It’s available in .308. http://www.snipercentral.com/sav10pc.phtml

I have the old Remington 700 VSSF in .308 Winchester.
It has the older var x in 6 power with 42mm objective.

This scope has excellent light gathering capability (42mm). The target is much sharper and clearer than the leupold variable 2.5-8 power fitted to the .338 Win Mag.

At 365 meters (400 yards) I can still see the target clearly. The best groups I have made that far is about 2.5 inches.

Consider a fixed power scope. With variables, the more power you have, the less light it transmits to the eye. Also as power is increased, the eye relief will decrease.

That means the head/eye needs to be closer to the scope with each increase in power to maintain sight picture.

With 6x power I have plenty to reach out to 300+ and low enough to shoot at 40 meters. With any fixed power, you can use the cross hairs to judge distances to the target or animal.

I have variables on other rifles. I keep dialing them to 4x or 6x. I think that is the most useful power range for 90% of hunting.

jquigg09 asked What is a good gun for 300 – 600 yard shooing?

As for caliber, im leaning towards .223 or 308 because of the price of cheap ammunition for practice. I cant decide between a rifle such as the AR 15 223 or a model 700 or browning a bolt rifle. I figure I’ll be doing more shooting closer towards 300 yards, so im inclined to choose the 223, but any suggestions for the gun? Also, any recommendations on a good scope. I am just getting into long range shooting and regulary shoot skeet, sporting clays, pistol, etc etc. Any help is greatly appreciated.

And got the following answer:

First off, do you reload or just use factory ammo. If you want to shoot long-range, then reload if possible. I have been shooting long range for years, both proffessionally(at work, not comp.) and recreationally. My personal baby is a Savage 112 243 Win. bolt, in the BVSS variant. Savages, out of the box with their new ACCU trigger, are exceptional rifles if you want a rifle that is easier on the pocket book. After finding the right reload for this rifle, I have shot a 1 1/4 in. group at 300 yards. The 243 is a pet for me because the load I use will send a 55 gr. Nosler ballistic tip downrange at 4100 fps. Wind shear was suprisingly low. 308’s are more ballistically efficient, but drop like a rock. But they still perform out at long range, time and again. 223’s will fall like a boulder at long range with a lot of wind shear. I only recommend them for work out to 250 or so. Model 700’s, out of the box, have crappy triggers in my opinion. I have one in the Police-Sniper version. It is an awesome shooter, but had to drop a Jewell trigger into it to get this. Scopes….. You get what you pay for here. Although…I have used a BSA contender on a rifle and was well pleased with it. The best in my opinion is a Night Force. Awesome resolution and magnification. Can’t say any more than that. Other good ones are: Pentax, Springfield Armory, Leupold, just to name a few. Try and go with a 30mm tube over a 1in. You will get more light transmission with a smaller objective size. I also recommend Warne rings. Hope I could help.

Rooster asked What are your 3 best weapons to fight off the zombie apocalypse with?

Mine are a 16″ barrel 12ga shotgun, a Scoped H&K MP5 9mm, and a .357 Magnum sidearm. What are yours?

And got the following answer:


The M24

Calibre: 7.62x51mm NATO (.308 win)
Operation: Bolt Action
Feed: 5-Round internal magazine
Weight: 12.1 lb (5.49 kg) empty without telescope
Length: 43in (1092mm)
Sights: 10×42 Leupold Ultra M3A telescope sight (Mil-Dots),
plus detachable emergency iron sights. (Redfield Palma International)
Barrel: 416R Stainless Steel, 24″ length, 1:11.2″ twist, 5 radial land grooves
Stock: HS Precision – adjustable length.
Max Effective Range: 800 meters (875 yards)
Expected Accuracy: 1 MOA with M118
.5 MOA with M118LR

The M24 Sniper’s Weapon System (SWS) is a Zombies worst nightmare it represents a return to bolt action sniper rifles by the US Army. As in the USMC M40A1, the M24 uses the Remington 700 action, although the reciever is a long action made for adaptation to take the .300 Winchester Magnum round. The stock (HS Precision) is made of a composite of Kevlar, graphite and fibreglass bound together with epoxy resins, and features an aluminium bedding block and adjustable butt plate. A detachable bipod (Harris) can be attached to the stocks fore-end. The metal finish is powder coated for extreme durability


Mini Uzi

“powerful machine pistol which fires a lot of bullets at once. Its small size makes it convenient to carry and the rate of fire makes it a dangerous weapon

“the mini uzi is so good because if there are a lot of people you can kill them all

“This isn’t technically a pistol, more like a submachine gun. Only because this is automatic. Sort of like the G 18 ( Glock 18). But still, this weapon was used by the afgahn zombie hunters..



History: The katana is arguably the deadliest edged weapon ever made. Used by the Japanese samurai as their primary weapon, the katana’s curved blade was designed to slice clean through its target.

Description: Curved, sleek and single-edged, the katana’s blade ranges between 70-73 cm (27.6-28.7 in) long. Proper use of the katana requires a sure, confident, yet relaxed grip. Trust in the blade is necessary to achieve use of it’s full potential. Strike target about 3 inches from the tip of the blade for maximum power and leverage and you will have no issues slicing through rotting zombie flesh and bone. Wielding the katana, however, especially with decapitation as your end goal, requires the proper skill, strength and technique. For that reason, the katana is only deadly in the right hands. Less sure hands wielding this weapon should rather use a stabbing motion, aiming towards the bottom jaw of the zombie and thrusting upwards to the base of the skull, thus taking out the infected portion of the zombie’s brain.

BIGolBOY asked What is a good recoil shock resistant compact scope for an SKS rifle?

All I can find are NC Star, Barska, etc…

And got the following answer:

You can mount any brand of scope on it. I am partial to Nikon. Some prefer Leupold. The real problem in the sks is the lack of a decent mounting location. Some use the receiver cover. It moves. Some use the gas tube. That’s a terrible idea. There are really only two options for a decent mounting location. There is a scout type mount that replaces the rear sight. You must then use a pistol scope. I might recommend the Bushnell Trophy or Burris pistol scope for this arrangement. Second, you can have a gunsmith mount a ak style rail on the side of your receiver. Then you can buy a mount that works with any standard rifle scope. A lot of the inaccuracy myths about the sks stem from people mounting scopes in poor locations on a sks. There just aren’t many decent spots to do it.

whitehat98660 asked Can anyone tell me the value of this rifle?

I traded a Taurus PT 1911 that was in not so good shape for a Interarms Mark x .264 Winchester Mag rifle. The rifle is in beautiful shape. Of course I did my research and found one being sold for 1200 but that was with a scope. I made the trade but was wondering if anyone knows on average how much these rifles sell for?

And got the following answer:

The price for the Mark X’s is pretty varied… But what people actually PAY for one is not. You might see a $1200 price tag on one, but I’ve never met a fool dumb enough to pay that for one. Most of them go for between $300-500. I’ve never seen one sell for more than $650

A scope on top means all bets are off. Usually, a smart seller will sell a high quality stock and a middle of the road rifle separately. Say I had a Leupold Mark 4 on top of that Interarms, together, the combo is worth $800-900, but separately, I could sell the Mark 4 for $650-800, and the rifle for $500.

All in all, you probably made a pretty fair trade. The pistol was probably worth $300-500 depending on how “not so good shape” it was in, and the rifle is worth that much as well. Neither of you really hustled the other, but at least you both ended up with something you wanted.

asked Scope recommendation for Ruger Super Redhawk 454 Casull?

I have recently purchased a Ruger Super Redhawk 454 Casull 7.5″ and would like to know a decent scope for this gun. I don’t need anything ultra expensive. Adequate quality but something that is designed for the massive recoils of the large caliber handguns. I would like to stay in the 200 to 300 dollar or less range. Is there anything anyone can recommend in this price range.

And got the following answer:

Not the gun or cartridge to skimp on the scope of course, and you can get a Leupold FX-II Pistol scope for just a little more than you state, $350, and WELL worth it. I like a fixed-power scope for heavy handguns, as its best benefit is the single focal plane, not the range of magnification. The Leupolds are available in 2x with a 20mm objective or 4x with a 28mm.